Mike I think it's funny that you seem worried about Hilary being beholden to corporations but plan to vote for a man that wants to deregulate all businesses and pretty much turn the country over to the control of corporations. You are familiar with his libertarian platform right? Sure, I believe in States' rights too but not when it is used as a code word for removing all obstacles to rapacious greedy corporations being in charge.
So yeah, Hilary might be your classic politician but she's better than Paul and the rest of the republican field by a giant margin. Of course I am still holding out hope that we might get someone else like Dodd, Richardson, or Edwards.
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Pry we are a capitalist society end of story, if you like socialist ideals and hate corporations you are in the wrong country.
The Federal Government has bloated and gotten its hands into to much IMHO. I don't want or need the Government telling me to save for retirement, pay for health care for when I am a seiner citizen, try to protect me from me by them telling me what I can do and place with/in my body, and raise my children.
The feds just needs to protect me from foreign invasion, letting me keep my civil liberties, make sure the states don't pass any laws that are unconstitutional, and make sure the states provide an infrastructure. THAT IS IT!
If these "rapacious greedy corporations" are not acting how we like or giving us a inferior product we don't have to purchase their products or services from them. They will have to change their ways or loose profits. This goes for health insurance also. If you are stuck only able to use a company's health plans and you don't like it gather others in the company complain to HR and they can try and change it.
example I had Couresource PPO at my work they sucked, enough people in the company complained and the we changed to Blue Cross.
And if all similar of companies in a certain field (health Insurance) are price gouging the States can tax them if their profits exceed a prescribed percentage. that money can go to the States infrastructures needs.
The Federal Government has bloated and gotten its hands into to much IMHO. I don't want or need the Government telling me to save for retirement, pay for health care for when I am a seiner citizen, try to protect me from me by them telling me what I can do and place with/in my body, and raise my children.
The feds just needs to protect me from foreign invasion, letting me keep my civil liberties, make sure the states don't pass any laws that are unconstitutional, and make sure the states provide an infrastructure. THAT IS IT!
If these "rapacious greedy corporations" are not acting how we like or giving us a inferior product we don't have to purchase their products or services from them. They will have to change their ways or loose profits. This goes for health insurance also. If you are stuck only able to use a company's health plans and you don't like it gather others in the company complain to HR and they can try and change it.
example I had Couresource PPO at my work they sucked, enough people in the company complained and the we changed to Blue Cross.
And if all similar of companies in a certain field (health Insurance) are price gouging the States can tax them if their profits exceed a prescribed percentage. that money can go to the States infrastructures needs.
Where did all the good sizzle go?
Yes but in your society Durger, there will be no alternative to those rapacious greedy corporations because they will all have merged and crushed any possible competition. Capitalism only works when you have laws in place to keep corporations from getting out of line. Your libertarian fantasy world where people vote with their dollar and have ultimate freedom is just that, a fantasy world.
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gluttonie wrote:Pry we are a capitalist society end of story, if you like socialist ideals and hate corporations you are in the wrong country.
The Federal Government has bloated and gotten its hands into to much IMHO. I don't want or need the Government telling me to save for retirement, pay for health care for when I am a seiner citizen, try to protect me from me by them telling me what I can do and place with/in my body, and raise my children.
The feds just needs to protect me from foreign invasion, letting me keep my civil liberties, make sure the states don't pass any laws that are unconstitutional, and make sure the states provide an infrastructure. THAT IS IT!
If these "rapacious greedy corporations" are not acting how we like or giving us a inferior product we don't have to purchase their products or services from them. They will have to change their ways or loose profits. This goes for health insurance also. If you are stuck only able to use a company's health plans and you don't like it gather others in the company complain to HR and they can try and change it.
example I had Couresource PPO at my work they sucked, enough people in the company complained and the we changed to Blue Cross.
And if all similar of companies in a certain field (health Insurance) are price gouging the States can tax them if their profits exceed a prescribed percentage. that money can go to the States infrastructures needs.
YEA!
hey while we're at it do away with a military to protect our nation, fire and police-fuck that, education for the kids, unecessary right? we dont want the bright enough to realize that the government managing certain things would be a good idea.
in fact glutt, if you even think we live in a capitalist nation you're the one deluding yourself. everything is subsidized, even milk commercials on television, without uncle sam holding all that shit together it would all collapse-your ideal capitalist society is 2 nut hairs shy of becoming anarchism.
i think the capitalist ideal is much better in theory than the socialist ideal. the happy medium is where it comes to fruition.
id like to see the government keep their hands out of my personal business, however, people these days have become so unbelievably stupid, that it wont happen.
pop culture has killed parenting, morals, ideals, and proper living. this can be blamed on mass media, corporations, and the government.
i believe that we should have a stricter guideline on what amount of market share a company can have in general, and stricter guidelines on product quality allowed to be imported into this country. however, i do not believe we should be allowing the government to seize call records and recordings from companies, or otherwise intrude on our daily lives.
government should serve the people... people should not serve the government. that mantra is said over and over, and it seems the fanatical liberal base has completely forgotten that, as well as the bible thumping neocon middle age generation currently clogging our political toilet.
the insanity that is Ron Paul is no more insane than a woman who tries to purport national healthcare while taking donations from pharmaceutical corporations.
Not everything he wants will ever pass, anyone with a basic knowledge of government knows this. however, the notion that people DO want a change is what will bring this all to a more fair and evenly handed society.
the reactionary bullshit of anyone who is too far to the left or right is complete drivel. none of the candidates in the front currently are fit to run this country. we haven't had a great president in 20 years. before that, it may have been another 20. personally, if Paul doesn't run in the end, i will vote for a pack of ritz crackers. at least they taste nice with cheese.
i want a strong home defense. i want a removal of our troops from unneeded posts world wide. i want us to finish restoring iraq as it is our responsibility and duty to those people to help in any way we can after completely destroying their lives and government.
I want healthcare universally, and governmentally mandated for everyone who is a citizen.
illegal immigrants should be offered immigration courses for those who stay and should be integrated.
private funds from illegal immigrants should no longer be allowed to transfer from this country to another.
the border should be sealed and should have been a long time ago.
this is basic shit. national unity and personal pride in our country as a whole is a a low. the concept that some of you would vote for someone simply because "they are the lesser evil" is bullshit.
evil is evil.
make a change.
id like to see the government keep their hands out of my personal business, however, people these days have become so unbelievably stupid, that it wont happen.
pop culture has killed parenting, morals, ideals, and proper living. this can be blamed on mass media, corporations, and the government.
i believe that we should have a stricter guideline on what amount of market share a company can have in general, and stricter guidelines on product quality allowed to be imported into this country. however, i do not believe we should be allowing the government to seize call records and recordings from companies, or otherwise intrude on our daily lives.
government should serve the people... people should not serve the government. that mantra is said over and over, and it seems the fanatical liberal base has completely forgotten that, as well as the bible thumping neocon middle age generation currently clogging our political toilet.
the insanity that is Ron Paul is no more insane than a woman who tries to purport national healthcare while taking donations from pharmaceutical corporations.
Not everything he wants will ever pass, anyone with a basic knowledge of government knows this. however, the notion that people DO want a change is what will bring this all to a more fair and evenly handed society.
the reactionary bullshit of anyone who is too far to the left or right is complete drivel. none of the candidates in the front currently are fit to run this country. we haven't had a great president in 20 years. before that, it may have been another 20. personally, if Paul doesn't run in the end, i will vote for a pack of ritz crackers. at least they taste nice with cheese.
i want a strong home defense. i want a removal of our troops from unneeded posts world wide. i want us to finish restoring iraq as it is our responsibility and duty to those people to help in any way we can after completely destroying their lives and government.
I want healthcare universally, and governmentally mandated for everyone who is a citizen.
illegal immigrants should be offered immigration courses for those who stay and should be integrated.
private funds from illegal immigrants should no longer be allowed to transfer from this country to another.
the border should be sealed and should have been a long time ago.
this is basic shit. national unity and personal pride in our country as a whole is a a low. the concept that some of you would vote for someone simply because "they are the lesser evil" is bullshit.
evil is evil.
make a change.
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we haven't had a great president in 20 years.
Please don't tell me you mean Reagan, the Patron Saint of the Grand Old Party. No offense, but I was 7 when he was elected and I know you are younger than me. How much can you really know about Reagan other than what you have read in books?
I'm not saying he was bad, especially since I was too young at the time to know anything about politics, but I am not a fan of laissez-faire economics. And I thought Clinton was a great president.
It's a fledgling Anna's Hummingbird.
clinton was great because he sat around and had the tech boon happen. had that not happened, he would have been just another guy who sat around for 8 years and things went ok.
he did however do great things for the peace effort in the middle east, though, lets not forget, this is the man who had usama bin laden and let him go in 1996.
great is all relative.
at the time, he was the center of great scrutiny because he lied under oath. that is a big deal, no matter how ignorant and moralistically bankrupt the populace has become.
regardless, reagan did well for the country in a number of ways, be it bolstering national defense, defeating russia (with help from pope john paul 2), etc.
the man was great no matter how old i am or how much i have read. he will continue to be considered great far after we are dead.
i am no fan of the GOP or the DNC. they both completely suck ass. the GOP for becoming so bastardized and the DNC for being so ineffective it cant even pass its own agenda when the populace votes them in.
it makes me sad that we as a people settle for the bullshit candidates that are presented for us the past 8 years and for the upcoming election.
he did however do great things for the peace effort in the middle east, though, lets not forget, this is the man who had usama bin laden and let him go in 1996.
great is all relative.
at the time, he was the center of great scrutiny because he lied under oath. that is a big deal, no matter how ignorant and moralistically bankrupt the populace has become.
regardless, reagan did well for the country in a number of ways, be it bolstering national defense, defeating russia (with help from pope john paul 2), etc.
the man was great no matter how old i am or how much i have read. he will continue to be considered great far after we are dead.
i am no fan of the GOP or the DNC. they both completely suck ass. the GOP for becoming so bastardized and the DNC for being so ineffective it cant even pass its own agenda when the populace votes them in.
it makes me sad that we as a people settle for the bullshit candidates that are presented for us the past 8 years and for the upcoming election.
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Doomsayer wrote:
YEA!
hey while we're at it do away with a military to protect our nation, fire and police-fuck that, education for the kids, unecessary right? we dont want the bright enough to realize that the government managing certain things would be a good idea.
Minus the military and the FBI (to police crimes between states) everything else you keep listing off is the States job NOT the Federal government. I think if you read my statement i said the feds would make sure the states provides a infrastructure (passing laws like EPA, Car safety Standards, minimum education standards, etc) it is not the Federal governments job to pass morality laws and ideals to a whole country.
If a State wants to be more socialist and have health care, forced retirement programs, welfare programs because of the people, or if they want to pass no drug/drinking laws and anti prostitution laws because they are in the bible belt I am fine with that, it has listened to it's smaller demographic of people. I can always move States to the best suited to my beliefs or needs. Moving countries is far more difficult.
Pry I am a libertarian when it comes to the Federal government only. everyone keeps looking to the Federal governments to handle everything because when that states try and change things that its peoples want (medical marijuana, raising the speed limit, lowering the drinking age) the feds then strongarm them into complying by withholding funding. When it comes to State politics i am more middle of the road.
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